add easier way to change default/fallback language behaviour

[k4lizen]

Motivation

I often edit files which dont have a file type nor shebang (like ~/.gdbinit) and for me they most often use # for comments. Programming languages which use // in general have a file extension so are detected. Maybe # should be the default?

My solution

I want to make it so that # is used for comments by default when a specific language isn't detected.

The problem

This isn't intuitive at all, and reading the docs doesn't help much. It seems the current solution is doing this: #9165 (comment) which seems way to hacky and verbose to overwrite a simple configuration option.
I would expect:

[[language]]
name = "text"
comment-tokens = ["#"]

or something similar to Just Work.

[Flip1]

Helix is ​​really great, but I'm failing here too and can only get ahead with workarounds.

Overwriting the default configuration for "text" also seems to be the best solution to me.

Another possibility could be to use "" for file-types, to apply to all files that don't have a suffix.

[[language]]
name = "text"
comment-tokens = "#"
file-types = ["","txt"]

As a workaround for dot-files the following is possible:

[[language]]
name = "bash"
file-types = [{glob=".*"},"sh"]

EDIT: Missing quote added

[k4lizen]

As a workaround for dot-files the following is possible:
[[language]]
name = "bash"
file-types = [{glob=".*},"sh"]

Cool! Thanks, I'll be using that. (sidenote you're missing a doublequote in file-types = [{glob=".*},"sh"])

[kirawi]

At best I'm paraphrasing here and at worst I'm completely wrong, but from my understanding the plan is to let this use-case be handled by the plugin system instead of putting more work into supporting changing the defaults.

[k4lizen]

Oh boy I can't wait to install the always-use-4-space-indentation plugin, I love installing random software instead of having a single knob to turn!

[kirawi]

You won't have to install anything. The configuration will simply be more flexible and still declarative. See #10441 and relatedly #8853

[k4lizen]

Oh okay, I misunderstood, my bad. The discussions you linked seem quite promising!

[gyreas]

At best I'm paraphrasing here and at worst I'm completely wrong, but from my understanding the plan is to let this use-case be handled by the plugin system instead of putting more work into supporting changing the defaults.

Make sense 'cause one would expect that we don't do clever filetype checking, thus fallback to 'text' as type.

[k4lizen]

[[language]]
name = "bash"
file-types = [{glob=".*"},"sh"]

Unfortunately when using this files like ~/.local/lib/python3.12/site-packages/decomp2dbg/clients/gdb/gdb_client.py seem to be caught as well and the proper LSP (pylsp/ruff) isn't detected. I don't see a good way to get around this by looking at https://docs.helix-editor.com/languages.html#file-type-detection-and-the-file-types-key and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glob_(programming) either

[pascalkuthe]

The ability to more easily configure fallback falls under 5he config system refactor #8853 (just liek the issue you linked for a workaround).

[k4lizen]

(just like the issue you linked for a workaround).

oh true I completely blanked on that