Talk bots still shown after disabling apps + duplicate language entries

[vawaver]

Hi,

I am testing this on:

• Nextcloud AIO 12.9.0 Beta
• Nextcloud Hub 25 Autumn (32.0.6)
• Nextcloud Talk 22.0.10

I noticed behavior in Talk / Bots that looks inconsistent and I would like to clarify whether this is expected or a bug.

What I am seeing

I have the following apps disabled in the app settings:

• Agenda bot
• Call summary bot

However, in Administration settings → Talk → Bots, these bots are still shown in the list as if they are available on the server.

Also, inside conversation settings → Bots, I can still see entries for these bots and they can still be enabled there.

Additional thing I noticed

There are also multiple seemingly duplicated entries for the same bot in different languages.

For example:

• Call summary
• Zhrnutie hovoru (Slovak)
• other language variants as well

The same applies to Agenda, where multiple language variants are listed too.

So I am trying to understand:

1. Why are Call summary and Agenda still shown in Talk bot settings even though both related apps are disabled?
2. Why are there multiple entries for the same bot in different languages?
3. Is this expected behavior, or should only the relevant localized variant be shown?

What I already tried

After disabling both bot apps, I removed/stopped the related containers and then started everything again cleanly. I also restarted all containers afterwards.

The behavior remains the same.

Is this expected behavior in Hub 25 / AIO 12.9.0 Beta, or could this be a bug in how Talk bot availability is displayed?

[nickvergessen]

This is a known issue atm.

Why are Call summary and Agenda still shown in Talk bot settings even though both related apps are disabled?

Apps don't have an option to disable/remove bots the same way they create them.
You can manually remove them by listing them with occ talk:bot:list and then using occ talk:bot:uninstall with the id from the list.

We can of course try to hide the entries in the meantime, when the app is disabled.

Why are there multiple entries for the same bot in different languages?

Because we don't have visual settings for bots yet and I thought it's best to do language selection this way. If you don't need the other languages you can again remove them with the uninstall command.

or should only the relevant localized variant be shown?

We don't have a language setting yet and I didn't want to use AI on all chat messages to pick a language.