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Show: Reality Exploit Roundtable
Episode: 14
Date: Nov 10, 2012
Topics: Dutch Gov Global Spyware, 3D Printer DRM schemes, UN Internet Takeover?, Iranian and Grecian Black Markets
Moderator: Plato
Panelists: Voodoo, Wise-Guy, Hiro, Smuggler, Plato
Tags: hacking, 3d printing, drones, internet, agorism, black markets, system d
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Intro music by Sun Araw - "Deep Cover"
- Voodoo: Black and Yellow Pages, Beer Can Engines
- Smugggler: http://anarplex.net, http://shadowlife.cc
- Plato: Twitter, Reddit
- Hiro: Agorist Radio
https://www.bof.nl/2012/10/18/dutch-proposal-to-search-and-destroy-foreign-computers/
On 15 October, the Dutch ministry of Justice and Security proposed powers for the police to break into computers, install spyware, search computers and destroy data. These powers would extend to computers located outside the Netherlands.
Furthermore, providing the government the power to break into computers provides a perverse incentive to keep information security weak. Millions of computers could remain badly secured because the government does not have an incentive to publish vulnerabilities quickly because it needs to exploit these vulnerabilities for enforcement purposes.
First off, governments hack people all the time already and they will likely continue to do so whether it's legal or not. If they do legalize it, the Dutch cybersecurity agencies will probably expand their hacking operations a bit.
So I guess right now cyber warfare is covert. And laws like this raise the possibility of cyber warfare becoming overt.
Wise-guy, can you offer a forecast of the future of cyber warfare?
Greenwald on Anonymous hacks vs State hacks
Drone fights:
3D Printer DRM scheme http://torrentfreak.com/3d-printer-drm-patent-to-stop-people-downloading-a-car-121012/ http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsearch-bool.html&r=1&f=G&l=50&co1=AND&d=PTXT&s1=8,286,236.PN.&OS=PN/8,286,236&RS=PN/8,286,236
A new patent, issued this week by the U.S. Patent & Trademark Office and titled ‘Manufacturing control system’, describes a system whereby 3D printer-like machines (the patent actually covers additive, subtractive, extrusion, melting, solidification, and other types of manufacturing) will have to obtain authorization before they are allowed to print items requested by the user.
So the idea here is that your printer will refuse to print stuff unless you purchase the rights to the object from wheover owns the copyright. Probably Disney or Viacom.
Obviously, one could still build a printer without the DRM chip. So, it seems plausible to me that governments might outlaw non-DRM printers.
Voodoo, these 3D printers can print out a large portion of their own parts. Is this a losing battle or what?
UN wants to take over the Internet http://www.itu.int/en/wcit-12/Pages/overview.aspx http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2012/12/congress-declares-opposition-to-un-takeover-of-the-internet/
The UN's communication committee - the ITU or International Telecommunication Union - is currently meeting to modernize the International Telecommunication Regulations. God that phrase makes me die a little inside. The regulations are intended to
facilitate international interconnection and interoperability of information and communication services.
The treaty sets out general principles for assuring the free flow of information around the world, promoting affordable and equitable access for all and laying the foundation for ongoing innovation and market growth.
There's widespread concern that the UN committee will agree to increase government control of the Internet, limiting the free flow of inforation and making it easier for states to spy upon and censor their internet traffic.
I was surprised to see that the US house of representatives unanimously voted to oppose these UN regulations.
Smuggler, are you concerned about this committee?
Voodoo: Blackandyellowpages.com Smuggler: Shadowlife.cc Wise-Guy has nothing to plug, but we did not forget him. Hiro: AgoristRadio.com Plato: xkcd.com; smbc-comics.com
Iranian and Grecian Black Markets http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2012-11-29/dollar-less-iranians-discover-virtual-currency http://www.economist.com/blogs/schumpeter/2012/10/greece%E2%80%99s-shadow-economy
Pundits say that Greeks got themselves into this mess by trading on the black market instead of properly paying their taxes.
Friedrich Schneider, a professor at the Johannes Kepler University in Linz, Austria, disagrees. He believes that up to half of Greece's shadow economy complements activities in the official economy, adding to welfare and overall GDP, and that stamping it out altogether might do more harm than good.
Leaving aside the difficulties of stamping out black markets, the money circulating through the shadow economy will likely make it back to the legal economy, at which point the Greek government can collect tax.
Additionally, if the black market distributes resources more efficiently than the white market, it means that participants in the black market can get more stuff for less money. The individuals will prosper and in my humble opinion, that's much more important than the state prospering.
A few countries away, Iranians are starting to discover Bitcoin. Users are using directories of OTC exchangers to turn their rials into Bitcoins to bypass sanctions and store wealth. Musician Mohammad Rafigh is one of the early adopters, he's selling his tracks on coindl.
Hiro - These guys are abandoning the white market and moving to more profitable paradigms. Do you have any tradecraft tips that will reduce their risks?
This track is For Brightness by Mohammed Rafigh. You can download his tracks for a few bitcents each. Grab the link from our show notes or search coindl beyond matter.